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OCs Stamp by BowChickaBowWow OCs Stamp by BowChickaBowWow
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OCs Stampby BowChickaBowWow

DeviantArt Related / Deviant Stamps©2007-2015 BowChickaBowWow
Mary Sue defined:

Mary Sue is a pejorative term, sometimes shortened to Sue, used to describe or criticize a fictional character that exhibits some or most fan fiction clichés, making the character itself something of a cliché. The term "Mary Sue" is often considered unisexual, although masculinized variations such as "Gary Stu" or "Larry Sue" are frequently used in reference to male characters.

What a Mary Sue is:
Exactly what makes a character a Mary Sue is subjective, although commonly accepted criteria include the character being exceptionally lucky (romance, adventure, and popularity with the right people seeming to gravitate toward the character) and having a role in the story that upstages the other characters. Some believe that if a character is unusual or remarkable in some way, then the character will immediately be perceived as a Mary Sue. Others agree that "Sue traits" are cumulative; most characters have "Sue traits" to some degree, but it's how much and how they are handled that is the real determining factor.

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:iconmissan:
missan Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2008
So true! I think many oc's, or at least the first ones we make, are very 'mary sue' in the beginning, but in my case, they develop as I draw them and make stories and RP, which makes them more unique (or at least I hope so).
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2008   Interface Designer
I do the same thing. Start with a char shell with the basics, work out kinks, develop the character, viola, no more Sue.
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missan Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2008
Yes, no more Sue! Wohoo!
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czaren Featured By Owner May 29, 2008
Thank you for making this!!!
I'm going to use this in my journal xDD :heart:
Mary Sues are very flat ne~? n__n ;;

:+fav:
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner May 29, 2008   Interface Designer
Ne.
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Pineapplelicious Featured By Owner May 26, 2008
Oh I love this stamp! I totally support ocs! Mary sues just sicken me to death! (cough I support sue-flamers lol)
Well as for my characters some I have to admit are a bit-suish but I try my best to make them less of a sue possible. xD
Still developing. <3
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MistyWater7 Featured By Owner May 11, 2008   Writer
So I was right! There is a Mary Sue! XD
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner May 11, 2008   Interface Designer
There CAN be. I'd dare say most of them are written by those fuckin' "kawaii desu" fangirls. :shakefist: They give the rest of us fan fic authors a bad rep!!!
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MistyWater7 Featured By Owner May 11, 2008   Writer
That is oh so true. Damn all of them D:
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Crows-Sin Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2008
hells yes!!!
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SailorSolar Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2008  Student General Artist
Nice one,
Im using this too
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PJ-Williams Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2008
...I used to be a Mary Sue maker, but after having a friend making Mary Sues up for FIFTY DIFFERENT FANDOMS (and they all have the same peronality and background, no matter the universe) and studying what makes a loveable realistic character, I try to make my characters have some flaws to them so people won't be tortured. Like me.

... I never knew that Mary Sues/Larry Stus were incredibly lucky (except for with every single guy/girl within the vincinity ...)
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DaveLuck Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2008
I like! My sentiments exactly. There's a bit of the author in every character, yup, I agree, but gotta know yer limits...
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2008   Interface Designer
Mhm, and know when to not press those limits.
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nexthokage Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2008
right on! power to the oc's
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2008   Interface Designer
Powah!!!
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:iconkohana1dreamer:
kohana1dreamer Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008   Writer
I really spent hours trying to make my characters realistic. My charater Belle was a first, sweet, intelligent, kind hearted, forgiving, talented at numerous things and never got angry. I managed to tone her down by taking away all but two of her talents, made her stupid and naive and I made her a little lazy.

Anyway, great stamp. How do you keep your characters from being Mary Sues? Do you have a certain procedre? I write out all of the chaacters good traits and life story, then I think about how these things would negatively affect them, and some more unappealing traits for good measure.
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008   Interface Designer
The procedure I use the most is going through the skills and strongpoints first, establish those, then try and find something to balance it out. Like, I've got a Spartan character from Halo... super strong, kinda funny, tough, bloody brilliant... and sometimes goes, well, berserk and/or bloody insane for times. The trick is to balance it out enough to where it's believable. That's the best advice I can offer on the topic. :)
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WeirdoGal Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008
Haha, I totally agree. I'm pretty sure all of my OCs were at one point Mary Sues, but luckily I was able to tone them down before it got completely out of hand XD

I think that's it's actually pretty easy for people to mistake some of my characters as Mary Sues (or Gary Stus) without context, but sometimes that's the problem. One example is my favorite character of mine, Mark, the runaway son of a billionaire who is blond, charming, handsome, incredibly talented, and brilliant. Now doesn't that sound like a Gary Stu? Haha, but then if you throw in the fact that he spent almost five years smoking, drinking heavily, working odd jobs, and a few years in depression, as well as being mildly obsessive compulsive and having generalized anxiety disorder and an inability to form solid romantic relationships. The funny thing is he started out with the first description, only.

Real Mary Sues annoy me to no end, but characters with Mary Sue-ish qualities are okay, as long as they're not overdone :3
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008   Interface Designer
Exactly, the trick is to level out the characteristics in a character. I had one canon character that I rewrote going the way of a Stu, so I added in a few things to level it back out and I wound up with one highly human character. If you don't put the effort in to level it out, then well... it's a Sue/Stu.
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Casandraelf Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i too make original characters, and while i use them in rps with friends when i pair them up with existing characters, if i were to write a serious fic, then they wouldn't have any romantic relationship with the character i like
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Entoxica Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2008  Student Interface Designer
My def of a Mary Sue:

A Mary Sue is the "perfect character." The so said Sue is stronger, faster, and more mysterious then all of the other characters. All the the opposite sex is attracted to this character, and the lucky one who gets chosen is usually the most desirable one. This character ALWAYS has a major role, as well as a secret past and incredible beauty. This character is flawless, except in the fact that he/she can't open up to anyone. Anyone, that it, except the main love intrest. He/she will never be clumsy, unless there is a romantic reason behind it. This character is not stuck up, and is very kind. Overall, theperfect character in the eyes of "what we should be." That's why Mary Sues are bad: they're all the same.
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Murd3r3r Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Nobody makes original characters anymore. Its impossible.

Some people just need to knock it off and deal in my opinion. Its their fantasy world, and I'm sure at one point we went through an obsession over a character and made one that loved them.

Not saying that I don't get irritated with Mary-sue's either, but, really, screw cannon. xD Original characters ftw <3
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FlamesOfTheSun Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2008
OH HECK YES MAN
HECK


YESSSSS
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Kaanaa Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2008
Sadly my teacher encourages to make ourself "us" characters so it would be easier to write about. :iconfacepalmplz:

After thinking that one of my characters is a Sue, I decided to make her weak in actual physical contact, on the other hand her fictional spoken stories comes to life if the listener believes in her.
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Stella-Shuriken Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2008
This is so true n_n
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KirstenChocolate Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2008  Student Traditional Artist
… "OR FAN CHARACTERS!"
That's what I think. :D
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2008   Interface Designer
Of course, fan chars included.
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KirstenChocolate Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2008  Student Traditional Artist
Good. :XD:
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LineKennyGoticGirl Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2008
Sometimes I prefer Mary Sues than canon female characters. In Star Wars I prefer much more Anakin with a Original Female Character than with Padmé, she is the most Mary Sue character in Star Wars created by George Lucas. In fan fictions she acts as Mary Sues! :bleh: After I read many fan fictions I have to agree about the Mary Sues, I made two OR, one in South Park and I'm planning not make her as a Mary Sue and the other is a pairing to Vader, she isn't a Mary Sue, she's just a "ironic character better than Padmé".
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2008   Interface Designer
....

You're my hero right now. Like, my... uber all time hero. SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME ABOUT PADME!!!!!!!!!!! :glomp: I had a friend TOTALLY sue her up and just... ugh, hate the pairing anymore.
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LineKennyGoticGirl Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2008
Thank you. It's really hard fiding someone who doesn't like Padme's character. In general Star Wars fan girls who love Padme, thinks that Padme/Anakin is "cute" and makes a lot of stupid fan fictions. Unfortunately, I always see her acting a f*cking Mary Sue and that makes me hate her, yes, I also hate the pairing.
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2008   Interface Designer
I like the pairing for canon, but when it comes to my own fics, I'll take my chances with a friend's OC --> [link] (My rewrite of Anakin and my friend's OC, Halley, who's better written than Padme ever would be.)
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Kitsunerage Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2008
This is why I thank God I never made made up characters for any fandoms, and stuck to original characters from my own plots/stories.

And only today I heard a ten minute rant about her Inuyasha Mary-Sue character...-shudder-
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Kitsunerage Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2008
And as a plus, half my characters are so fuckin' flawed that they'd never be considered sues lol.

The only sue/stu-ish traits some of them have are their attractiveness. :l
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Autumn-Fyre Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with the original def of a Mary Sue, but I've noticed that people's accusations get more and more general.. it's like every fan character is one. I know personally, that I had my Sue stage, early on my writing, but doesn't everyone?
I just hate it when every character is one, or when any semi-used idea is an automatic diagnosis of that, like having an unusually spelled name or something...
I honestly have found people who say that. Where would I be if I were a character? -looks at my name and laughs-
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2008   Interface Designer
You'd probably be omgcreative if you were a character. (You yoinked my spelling though of fire. :XD:)
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Autumn-Fyre Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
xD
I was speaking of my real name, but that one works too...
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2008   Interface Designer
Well, I got the dA username from how it was worded. XD
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Autumn-Fyre Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah... Sorry. ^^;
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Serena-hime Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2008
Dude, if I had journal, I would totally post this. O.O
Amen to that!
Mary-sues tend to ruin a lot of stuff. D:
And I hate it when people think all OC's are Mary-sues. >.<
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holepunch Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2008
Down with the Mary Sues! I roleplay (always OCs, heh heh) and write stories, and it's seriously sucky when someone, without even seeing the character in action, assumes that your characters are Sues automatically. =(
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2008   Interface Designer
Yep. I can understand/agree with that.
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Pendragon9 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2008
Wow. I'm faving this.

I have four OCs created from scratch that I love to death, but I fear that one of them may be a mary sue.

I'm not really sure.
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2008   Interface Designer
The definition varies a lot, according to some people, any OC is a sue.
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Tomeka04 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2008
just a quick note to let you know that i'm going to put this in my journal ^_^
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2008   Interface Designer
^_^
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Mae-Sun Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2008   Photographer
Wonderful!~ Thanks for the stamp!
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BowChickaBowWow Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2008   Interface Designer
Welcome!
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Mazoku85 Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2008
Amen!
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